Monday, April 25, 2005

garganta profunda

hi guys,

thanks for all the fun and funny shit on the message board over the long weekend. 80+ messages! i love when everyone gets into a little tizzy about something or other. just think of all the great stuff we've argued about this year.

so i don't want to dwell too much on moot court, as the whole process obviously brought up a whole range of emotions from all of us who participated, but i do want to echo some of your sentiments about "the call that never came."

lord, did i ever put a lot of time into the moot court tryout. true, it did not go so well for me. i can't deny that my opponent scored big points by raising some really heads-up objections to my questions in the cross examination. and it's also true that my opening statement was far from memorized, and that i was sweating like a husky boy in his bar mitzvah suit throughout my entire tryout.

i have no gripes about how the judges made their decisions, nor can i complain about the moot court tryout process itself. the people who are really good on their feet, who are confident and who come across well got invited. a lot of things in the world operate on a similar premise.

same thing goes for appellate ad. most people who made the second round did really well on their briefs. this means that they put a lot of effort into their work, and were probably pretty smart to boot. in other words, they deserved to make the second round. and those who made the final cut had to be at the top of their game under enormous pressure.

of course, some people surely got raw deals with cold benches or unfair brief grades, and i'm sorry if this was your experience. it sucks, and it's not fair.

however, the one thing that i do want to complain about is the way that the invitations were made. the whole thing just reeked of sorority rush week. i felt like such a friggin' tool walking around all afternoon with my hand on my phone, waiting for a call that never came. i'll also admit that i probably checked my phone every twenty minutes or so to make sure that it hadn't mysteriously run out of battery power or anything like that.

anyway, i'm not sure that the phone call method was the most humane way of handling the invitation process. i'm sure that it's partly based on the need to actually "invite" each person, to see which division they want to join, or if they even want to join at all.

however, if phone calls are actually necessary, why can't these moot court folks have the simple decency to call EVERYONE who tried out for moot court, whether they made it or not? sure, it's not as fun to give someone bad news as it is to tell them that they made the cut, but think about it this way...

i spent a good 24 hours total writing my brief, and practicing for the oral argument, and i'm a total menlove. i'm sure that most people spent a lot more time than that. the people who made the second round had to add even more hours of stress and prep work, hours that surely would have been better spent working on a 95-page contracts outline. the people who tried out for trial ad probably lost another 24 hours of prep time. all things considered, we all lost hours and days in the process of trying out for this stuff.

and they can't spare twenty seconds for a phone call?

"mr. menlove? hi, this is Billy Blackacre from the moot court honor society. i'm sorry to inform you that we aren't going to be able to invite you to join this year, but we thank you for your efforts, and wish you luck." click.

twenty seconds, max. twenty seconds of their time at say, ten in the morning, would have meant an afternoon without anguish for me and for the majority of students in our class.

anyway, that's all the complaining i have to do. on a more positive note, i'm really happy for and proud of all the folks who got into moot court. it's a big honor, and i have no doubt that you deserve it. i understand that only about fifty people out of the 500+ who tried out made the appellate ad, and something like 30 out of 230 made trial ad, so you guys deserve some serious props.

specifically, i'd like to give a shout out to my fellow section 9ers who made moot court.

you know what? fuck it, i'm going to give shouts out to the section 8ers as well. some of you all are starting to feel like family to me.

section 9ers: mark antar, scott chait, scott eckert, jed friedman, demian ordway, lishani senaratne, aimee shultz

section 8ers: michael blatchley, andria bouskos, carla cheung, jenna haze, michael pasinkoff, julie shaw

i apologize if i left anyone's name off of the list. i realize that i may not actually know everyone's name in section 8. if i left anyone out, let me know!

regardless, to those of you who made it, congrats! you all deserve a standing novation.

***
so now we are really in the home stretch. you guys know that i usually try to post five times a week. however, some of you might remember that come exam time, i really only write something after each exam. aside from that, my life turns into a mad dash for the finish line, same as all of yours.

the point is that although i'll try to write a little something after tuesday's and wednesday's classes, believe it or not, menlovian is pretty much over with. all things considered, you should expect two or three more entries this week, an entry after each exam, and then a final menlovian entry, which will either be very, very brief, or ridiculously out-of-control, over-the-top long, revealing, and hopefully entertaining.

regarding that final entry, seeing as how we haven't had any pledges in a week, it's been looking like it will end up being a short goodbye & thank you sort of thing. sort of a bummer, but actually, the upside for me is that i get to keep my identity a secret. also, i know that a few of the people who made pledges (myself included) will be honoring their pledge to Africare regardless of whether we hit $1500 or not, so i'm happy about that as well.

however, it's still possible that we'll reach our goal. i'm not going to be harping on it in these final weeks, as we've all got exams and job-searches and whatever to deal with, but i just wanted to remind you about a few points:
  • if we raise less than $15oo, all previously-made pledges are deleted and cancelled. it's all-or nothing.
  • if we reach our goal, BLS becomes life members of Africare, and all menlovian-related secrets and stories will be revealed.
  • the deadline for pledges is midnight after our con law exam, the evening of the 13th.
  • as of right now, we are $763.96 away from our goal. we've come far, but there's quite a bit to go.
  • to answer the question that was emailed to me, yes, people who have donated may certainly donate a bit more if they like, and yes, i will reflect the change on the BLSforGood website. nihilists who aspire to become sour patch kids need only pledge four dollars, and so on.

***

so tomorrow is our last regular class with beryl and helladonk. it's hard to believe, and i'm excited to see what they each have in store for us.

before i go, i have one random thing to mention. i know that i don't do too much in the way of recommending movies or albums to you guys. it's just too hard to do so without giving away my identity. however, i do have to recommend the TV show called "wonder showzen" to all of you. it airs on MTV2 at some pretty strange hours, but believe me, it's worth the effort to try it out.

if you're a fan of "TV funhouse," "family guy," "mr. show" or "sesame street," i'm pretty sure you'll like wonder showzen. it's pretty much the most fucked up and creative half hour on television. it's not new either, it's been around awhile, but trust your old friend menlove on this one. if you want to get your mind off of the madness that is law school for a short piece of time, set your TiVo's, check it out, and let me know what you think. (people who are easily offended probably should not follow my advice. at times, wonder showzen makes south park look like the 700 club.)

see you all tomorrow for our (as poser called it) penultimate day of class!!!

-menlove

*BLSforGood*

56 Comments:

At 1:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i second what M said about wonder showzen. my favorite part was when the kid was interviewing the butcher:

"who's going to pay for this meat.. i mean, spiritually?"

also, mother nature's sex change operation was funny as hell.

 
At 2:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This may be too obvious, but isn't it ENTIRELY possible that our friend Menlove is none other than our friend Mr. Ordway? Think about it.

If I'm wrong, my sleeper picks are Dave Knapp or Lindsey Rodgers.

You heard it here first...

 
At 2:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I third the comment about Wondershowzen. Here is a link where you can watch the pilot episode from back when it was being shopped around under the name "Kids show."

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/kidsshow2.html

I wonder how many of my classmates are still awake now that it's officially the middle of the night.

 
At 4:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or it could be a reference to his secret identity.

Is anyone else high right now watching sportscenter for the third time?

 
At 10:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is the shit pisser a douche bag??

 
At 11:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is from an anonymous 2L:

I don't want this post to kick-start another round of moaning about the selection process, but...

24 hours? On your brief AND your argument? Are you serious?

The students who we picked for Moot Court spent far, far more time preparing for the competition and it showed. FYI, I easily spend 150 hours last year working on my brief and preparing for my argument. You just cannot expect to spend 24 hours on something like Moot Court tryouts and expect to win.

You might think that's an obnoxious statement, but there's a point. When you're a 2L on Moot Court, you actually have to compete as a team against other schools. During the 6-week runup to competition, you spend 4 hours or more a day preparing for Moot Court. Ditto for Law Review & journal (no competition, just nasty publishing deadlines).

No one wants to be on a team with a slacker who only puts a couple of hours into the thing. Better you spend your time blogging...

 
At 11:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To supercilious at 11:12 a.m.: No need to start a debate, but I believe you've missed the entire point... Let's look at what our buddy M wrote:

"i spent a good 24 hours total writing my brief, and practicing for the oral argument, and I'M A TOTAL MENLOVE. i'm sure that most people spent a lot more time than that." (emphasis added)

The blog, after all, is called Menlovian. The point is not to chastise Menlove for is idiocy - after all, the guy bills himself as "the dumbest 1L at BLS."

The point is to embrace it, and laugh at him, and at the little bits of yourself you see in his shenanigans. (At least, that's the point for me.)

Plus, any Menlovian reader worth his salt began to sense sometime around October or November that Menlove's self-deprecation is just part of his shtick. Chances are, Menlove does quite a bit better at 250 Joralemon than he lets on...

Maybe you should get back to spending 15,000 hours writing your next brief, or patting yourself on your back for your superior work ethic. Oh, and by the way, I made moot court with little more prep time than Menlove supposedly put in, so there goes your theory.

I'll see you at the moot court reception this afternoon, and if you're lucky, I'll let you fetch me a drink.

 
At 12:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ouch. somebody got served. we got your back, m-luvva

 
At 12:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Menlove, you listed someone named Jenna Haze as having made moot court from section 8. I've been in section 8 since day one, and as far as I know, there's no one here by that name.

 
At 12:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

C'mon now, doesn't the name "Jenna Haze" scream porn star? Get thyself to Google, stat.

 
At 1:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jenna Haze may not be in your section, but there's been plenty of sexin' in Jenna Haze...

 
At 1:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol sleeper picks. I think that menlove is a sleeper, that's for sure. And he's definitely smarter than he lets on.

But the only way you'll know for sure is if you give him money!

 
At 1:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If obnoxious 2L actually had to spend that long on the brief then I wish him luck in the real world. I don't think that Lynn Berkely is going to pay for 150 billable hours...

And by the way- you're also a fucking jerkoff.

 
At 2:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the 2L who claimed to have put in over 150 hours on the brief and oral prep...If you worked for 21 days straight-- you would have had to put in over 7 hours in per day! Those figures don't really jive when you consider that people also require time to attend class, read for class, sleep and eat. While it's certainly possible you put in 150 hours, that seems incredible! And by incredible, I mean ridiculous. Considering the timeline of when brief assignments were first distributed (Jan 26) and their due date (Feb 22), people had less than a month! At that rate, people would have had to work 5.55 hours a day!

 
At 3:29 PM, Blogger menlove said...

usually, i wouldn't allow people to call each other "fucking jerkoffs" on the message boards. but you know what? i'm gonna let it stand.

good to know i got my homies at my back. much love...

 
At 3:41 PM, Blogger Saucy Intruder said...

Your back is covered menlove! At least ya'll don't have to think about Rilooeypa again. I'm pretty happy that Mr. Barron and his GODawful monument are done and over with. And to whatever section 8 had, glad its done for ya'll too.

Onward and upward to exams! :)

 
At 3:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wanted to pop my head in here to distinguish myself from the 2L posting above. I've posted as '2L' on earlier threads but didn't wan't anyone thinking that the same guy who recommended those Coen Brothers movies was the same person who wrongly flamed Menlove over time spent on his brief. I'd never do that and wouldn't want the 1Ls thinking we were all assholes.

Congrats to winners. To non-winners, comfort yourself with the knowledge that moot court is an incredible time suck and if you thought you had no life this year, wait til you see the moot court people next year. I didn't make moot court and in retrospect I didn't deserve to - moot court (at least the process you just went through) is really a style over substance - it didn't matter that my paper got an A b/c I appeared nervous and unrelaxed. It's all about slick presentation. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, because when you leave here you're going to be in front of judges with nothing but bullshit and you've got to make it work somehow. The ability to think on your feet cannot be underestimated. You've got additional chances to make moot court, by the way.

Not so with the journals. Since I did make one of the journals (and wrote my way on), I can advise the following with regard to the writing competition.

a) only about 50% of the people who picked up the contest last year finished it - my advice is to finish it - even if it means 48 hours of less fun than you've ever had in your life (which will be true);

b) the readers are not looking for you to unlock the legal issue in its entirety - fixate on one aspect of the issue and flesh that out;

c) the readers *are* looking for writing ability - my advice is to write well;

d) flagrant and numerous spelling and grammatical errors will kill you; and,

e) a demonstration of ability to bluebook properly is also important - since that is what you'll be doing as a 2L. Along with grammar, it's the least subjective critera (and thus easier to grade), and as mentioned, highly relevant to what you'll be doing as a 2L;

f) steer clear of passive voice - write persuasively and don't meander.

~

~

 
At 3:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

(1) thanks for the advice, 2L. you're clearly a good 2L.

(2) lmao @ thought of lindsey rogers as menlove.

(3) just googled jenna haze... DAMN, she's got some skills.

(4) i agree, let's find out who menlove is, people. give a dollar. make it happen. maybe even save a child's life.

seacrest out!

 
At 6:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Que significa "garganta profunda"?

 
At 6:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

deep throat

 
At 6:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh section 8, oh section 8....looking at the final count, I see there was a shakedown, a bakedown and a takedown. Even counting Jenna Haze, who I admit, would be a worthy addition to any section's roster, you're still down by one compared with (don king voice) THE GREATEST SECTION THAT HAS EVER WALKED THE FACE OF BLS. Yes, folks, that's right, we're talking about section 9.
The state rests.

 
At 7:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

some props for section 7 here - while we only have one class with you, we've got 8 people on moot court.

i think we're pretty damn good.

 
At 9:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

congrats to paul, jen, and alex who also made moot court from section 8.

6:46 - you're obnoxious.

 
At 10:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think we need to raise some money... i'm not going to be happy if i never find out who menlove is.

fundraising ideas anyone?

 
At 11:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree, I'm going to be PISSED and sad if we don't do our thing for africare, and if I never find out who menlove is. I feel like he's one of my oldest BLS friends, like I know so much about him, but also know so little. The problem is that there's no time to put on any other fundraisers. If only I had a rich grandma I could ask for $500, we'd be set.

 
At 1:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i don't know, it's looking like it'll be tough to reach 1,500... maybe if menlove and princess strawberry marguerita break up, she'll tell everyone his identity.

what am i talking about? i don't want them to break up. we gotta raise that money somehow. i'm already a zipursky, and have no more money to give. how 'bout it, kids? give a dollar or two

 
At 1:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Different 2L at 3:48, what other chances for moot court are there?

 
At 1:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Silly rabbit, there is no PSM! The Princess is nothing but a figment of Menlove's fertile imagination. If we ever do find out who he is, and if it turns out that there is a PSM, I'll kiss y own ass. That's a promise.

Furthermore, I've always had my suspicions, but I'm now convinced that Menlove IS Lindsey Rodgers.

 
At 1:44 AM, Blogger Saucy Intruder said...

I'm telling you guys, it's Adam Lubow all the way. And PSM is in no ways menlove's left hand (assuming he's right handed), or right hand (assuming he's left handed). PSM is totally Aimee. I know they've been secretly hatching this menlove plot all year long... with Aimee dropping just enough hints about what happened in legal writing to make it sound like menlove was in section 9.

:D

 
At 3:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus Titty-fucking Christ! That is one hell of a theory. Do you have any evidence for such a wild (yet not implausible) claim?

Also, are you implying that Menlove (or any other guy for that matter) masturbates with his non-dominant hand?

 
At 3:25 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

at the risk of getting too fratty with this discussion, one comment:

i am right-handed. i am 25 years old. i have masturbated (i'm guessing here) approximately 2x per day since i was twelve, so that puts me up around 10,000 times jerking off in my lifetime, give or take a few thousand. (go me!)

in all of those 10,000 passionate moments with myself (and sometimes, happily, with others), i have only jerked off ONE TIME with my left hand. afterwards, i regretted it. i could have had it so much better. it's sort of like how you feel about yourself when you hook up with someone you always swore to yourself you'd never want to hook up with.

my point is that from my experience, people pretty much use their good hand to get off.

 
At 4:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no day. There is no night. There is only a contracts outline.

 
At 8:42 AM, Blogger Saucy Intruder said...

I just assumed everyone had their dominant hand on the mouse.

Sucks that menlove can't make polls anymore. That would be a good poll.

 
At 9:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

saucy, i don't want to think about you masturbating.

really, i don't.

oh god.

 
At 10:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 1:03 AM:

You'll have another chance for moot court next year - but only for trial advocacy. Many of the people who made trial advocacy this year were 2Ls. I think the only limitation is that you have a full year left. I don't know all the details though, so check.

 
At 11:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

broken crank shaft, you have brought disturbingly upsetting joy to my contracts class.

it would be better if you were masturbating (in contracts) while looking at me and thinking about saucy masturbating.

 
At 11:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

why doesn't the person who figured out how to sell $6 million in crack earlier this year go ahead and do that...then give it to Africare

 
At 12:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i suggest some sort of "strokes for folks" campaign, whereby we get people to pledge a dollar for every time we masturbate.

 
At 12:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know that everyone else already ripped that uppity 2l prick apart, so that this post is more or less rendundant, but i really want my own turn. so u made moot court, god bless u. but im willing to guess that your still a miserable prick, (or whore, whatever the case may be)havent gotten laid in at least a year, and are generally just a stain that should have been spent in your slut mother's ass. I hope your dog dies.

 
At 12:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Donate to Africare!

 
At 12:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 12:01, there is, believe it or not, a way to get paid for masturbating; sperm doning. I wonder if there are professional sperm donors, who make over 100k per year? I dont know. but if there are, they. are. cool.

 
At 1:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never knew that doning was a word. I think I like that.

12:19-
I agree about what should have happened in 2L's slut mother's ass.

Is anyone first starting their outline today??
I'm not...

 
At 5:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's time to get that crank shaft fixed, cause there's gonna be some saucy intrusions on friday the 13th...

 
At 5:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

5:23 just made me throw up a little in my mouth.

 
At 6:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, speaking of Friday the 13th, is there gonna be another one of those "end of semester" parties like we had last semester? Anybody know?

 
At 7:04 PM, Blogger Saucy Intruder said...

I concur 5:41.

 
At 9:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

End of the Semester Party
Union Bar
Park & 17th
Friday the 13th


-evan

 
At 9:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

End of the Semester Party
Union Bar
Park & 17th
Friday the 13th


-evan

 
At 9:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

End of the Semester Party
Union Bar
Park & 17th
Friday the 13th


-evan

 
At 9:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

End of the Semester Party
Union Bar
Park & 17th
Friday the 13th


-evan

 
At 9:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey evan, where is the end of the semester party? just kidding. will any drinking be going on there? just kidding. will you be revealing yourself as menlove??? not kidding.

 
At 10:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Menlove Maybe you should post your email again for people who want to donate?

 
At 11:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay I need some coaxing from my peers to donate. Here's what I'm thinking...

On the one hand, if I promise to donate, the chances of actually making it to $1500 is kind of small, so there's not much risk. I like Menlove. I like Menlove's blog. Giving is a good thing, especially to a good cause. Etc.

But, on the other hand, it seems like a lot of work, and I'm really busy right now with outlines.

Please help convince me to move beyond my inertia.

 
At 11:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've only been outlining contracts, and I'm on page 504. Me = fucked

 
At 11:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 11:04...

You're right, it is a good cause, and giving to charity is always good. And you're also right that fighting AIDS & such in Africa is certainly a worthy cause.

Here's why you should donate:

1) Even though you are busy, it takes like a minute to do. Just email him at menlovebls@hotmail.com (there's the address for the person who asked for it.)

2) Your donation might encourage others to follow suit.

3) Menlove wrote me a really nice little personalized thank you email after I donated. I'd assume that you'd get one too!

Those are all the reasons I can think of. Anyone else?

 
At 11:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, Menlove also wrote me a nice message when I donated. I think he must know me pretty well based on what he wrote. It made me feel good.

But if you still need a reason to donate, let this be your next one-minute study break:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/aids/stories/overview/

 

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